I did not speak during the marathon session on Monday but for different reasons I was referred to by three peers. However, it appears that it may not only have been peers who were tired. Lord Anderson referred to me by name three times and each time Hansard prints my name as ’Lord Norton of Lough’!
I’ve only been a member for thirteen years.
UPDATE: Hansard are correcting the electronic copy.
Lord Norton,
I am surprised to hear that of Hansard reporting but in every other form of reporting it is common to get things wrong beyond all excuse. That includes gratuitous editing of the names of the reporters into odd constructions…
The main Mexican TV News show interviewed somebody yesterday and they identified him as Philip Norton, Director of the Centre of Legislative Studies, however, he is not Philip Norton!! Look at the picture! http://yfrog.com/h22mabdj
Good gracious. It’s certainly not me.
I spotted that. I thought you might be upset! How dare they not know the correct spelling of a place name in God’s own country.
Well quite. I did once refer in the chamber to Lincolnshire as ‘England’s premier county’.
At least he got your name right! Making a mistake with that would have been much more embarrassing.
Indeed. Jack Straw once referred to me as ‘Lord North’ when before the Constitution Committee! Mind you, on another occasion in the Commons, he also managed to mis-pronounce Louth.
So, did Mr Straw pronounce Louth as in ‘Prof’, ‘mouth’, or ‘enough’?
ladytizzy: As in ‘tooth’.
I should add that as in ‘mouth’ is the correct pronunciation!
Lord Norton,
I doubt that you fought over it not being some uncouth youth. Doubtless you did not find it tough to close your mouth or mask with a cough any urge to be say “enough”. But it ought to be said that anyone is a bit rough if like Straw they cannot end a drought of silence when pronouncing a word with “ou” in English which is new to them. It is not like “plough”" and bough are much used now. Most use only “plow” and oh well. It may be a proud Scot would resent it but surely it is the simplest of things. No foreign africatives but a sound malleable as dough. Is it not?
Lord Norton,
Perhaps I did not think it through. It may be a bit of a slough one could fall into. Perhaps it is frought with a rough lack of courtesy to Minister Straw. will not flout the social tolerances of this blog. Put some extra coutesy to Mr. Straw in an IOU.
It`s been going on since 2002-3.
APPENDIX 2: LETTER FROM THE RT HON BARONESS HOLLIS OF
HEIGHAM TO LORD NORTON OF LOUGH
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200304/ldselect/ldconst/172/172.pdf
Philip The Lord Norton of Lough is Professor of Government at the University of Hull
http://www.essex.ac.uk/ecpr/publications/eps/onlineissues/autumn2001/contributor.htm
Professor Lord Norton Lough submitted that a wholly or part elected
chamber would be anti democratic and gives the example of a situation in which a bill
had popular support but one of the two elected chambers rejected the measure.
Page 35
http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/docs/qmlj_issue7.pdf
Session 2003-4
House of Lords Constitution-Minutes of Evidence
Norton of Lough, L (Chairman)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200203/ldselect/ldconst/999/3043001.htm
I could probably go on finding evidence of this error.
Carl.H: Well researched – and deeply worrying. There’s clearly a lot of it about. What I don’t quite understand is why people make this mistake.
I think I’ve heard your name referenced several times during this debate on coalition politics. I think mainly by Lib Dems as well. You’re clearly a peer with cross bench (and Crossbench) support.
DJB13,
Lord Norton was mentioned again today I think. He was quoted as saying aproximately that this is a time for rational behaviour…
There’s a good chance you may also hear me on ‘Today in Parliament’ discussing the current situation.
I will try to find it. Remember, I am across the pond…
Frank the program is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qtqd
If you cannot get it because of being outside the UK use this UK proxy service:
http://www.daveproxy.co.uk/
Simply enter the BBC URL in the space provided.
Carl H,
Thanks for the links. Sadly I did not see them until just before posting this. In a few hours I will take another break and see if there is still anything there.
Carl H.
They are perfectly good links and I did hear Lord Norton.
The Yorkshire Post did once refer to you as Lord Norton of Lout, which is an unfortunate thing to call you
This slightly dodgy-looking educational site says you are Lord Norton of Hull (which won’t please anyone from Lincolnshire):
http://tutor2u.net/blog/index.php/politics/comments/the-case-against-av-and-abolishing-the-lords/
And here you are Lord Norton of of Louth:
http://lsdimension.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/lords-of-the-blog/
Jonathan: On occasion, I find that when filling in an online form the number of available characters is such that my name ends ‘of Lout’. I sometimes receive mail addressed to Lord Louth, Lord NO Louth, Professor Louth, and similar (even Lord North!), but I don’t recall ever being addressed as Lord Norton of Hull.
To the eternal detriment of the fine City of Hull.
I should add that I wasn’t expecting this post to encourage such extensive research by readers!