Prospects for a late night…

It is now 9.30 p.m. on Monday evening.  The Government is keen to get through remaining amendments on the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill.  There are 64 groups of amendments to be debated.  After Question Time, the House managed to debate one of them before taking a statement on events in Tunisia.  It is now discussing the second group of amendments.   I have an amendment on the list, number 91A (it is actually an amendment to an amendment), but there are 29 groups of amendments to be considered before it is reached.  I look like being here for a very long time….

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About Lord Norton

Professor of Government at Hull University, and Member of the House of Lords
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14 Responses to Prospects for a late night…

  1. franksummers3ba says:

    Lord Norton,
    I am sure the work is important and that you find it satisfying. Yet, the words that come to mind are — you have my sincere sympathies…

  2. Carl.H says:

    I watched an hour or so before the recess, it was quite stimulating to watch a whip get jumped on with so much vigour. I dare say I will miss a few drama’s during the night and will never actually catchup with all that’s said but it was actually becoming like the tv, full of repeats. I was quite enjoying the tales some members had to tell and was quite shocked that a tory had something to say to interrupt them.

    Have a good night. 😉

  3. tory boy says:

    Lord Norton, the debate on the question that the house should resolve itself into a committee upon the bill was v interesting. I agree with the Leader of the House that the opposition have tried to talk the bill out. In doing so they have discouraged other peers from taking part as they think the bill is taking to long in the house. The arguments on splitting the bill do not stand up as the house agreed to take the WHOLE bill into committee not part of it. Can I ask you to do some investigative work? My much admired no 1 peer Baroness Trumpington I notice came into the house supported by two walking sticks not one, can you check for my piece of mind that she is ok and shall be skipping around the chamber on one walking stick soon?

  4. Craig B says:

    Ho hum

    Why did BBC Parliament show a sedentary adjournment debate in the Commons? and now a non-live The Record?

    It’s not as if there’s a major dust-up in the Lords.

    oh, wait…

  5. tory boy says:

    I gather that the house does not have the use of a closure motion. But can any member curtail debate by rising to test the opinion of the house on an amendment even if it is not his amendment? Thereby denying other members to speak to amendment, and bringing the debate on an amendment to a clouse?

  6. tory boy says:

    No need to answer! Lord Trefgarne and the Lords Speaker have just played out a closure motion!

  7. dave thawley says:

    I think this type of behaviour demonstrates that we really do need lords reform lol

    good luck, I hope your camp bed is in a good position 🙂

    • Lord Norton says:

      dave thawley: Yes, reform (strengthening our working practices) rather than abolition and replacement with an elected chamber.

      • dave thawley says:

        After our last debate on this I have a better understanding but at the end of the day there are now loads of people who have no public mandate using underhand tactics to try and disrupt the elected government’s plans and as a citizen I have no say in this process whatsoever. What is going on at the moment straightens my belief that we really do need to be able to elect the lords. For me (and a lot of people like me) it comes down to this – what right do people who are not selected by the people have to influence what our (unfairly via FPTP) elected representatives do. I understand your argument that you can’t effectively stop anything but this attempted postponement through undemocratic means could influence the referendum outcome and no one in the normal population has asked any of the lords to behave like this – it is just plain and simply wrong. At least if we could vote for representatives we could (if the democratic wish of the people mandate it) sack some of those involved so they can’t behave like this again. It is an abuse of power in which those who are affected (us serfs) have no ability to defend themselves against.

        I do understand some of the problems though so it will be good to talk about this in the future. In the mean time good luck, I hope you have plenty of coffee 🙂

      • ladytizzy says:

        Dave Thawley, years ago, there was a growing call to abolish the monarchy and elect a President. Two reasons it ground to a halt: 1) the cost, 2) President Thatcher. Not much has changed.

  8. tory boy says:

    Lord Norton this is turning out to be a fun night, now a vote on the question that the house do now resume. The Labour party really is time wasting 8 hours spent debating 2 amendment, they really are abusing the house and behaving irresponsibly.

    • Carl.H says:

      No they’re not they’re using the only tactic available in the light of overwhelming numbers and please remember just because more believe something is right doesn`t make it necessarily so.

      This bill is so wrong in so many ways, it shouldn`t be lumped together in the way it is, it hasn`t had enough independent scrutiny or research and the reduction in MP`s has no cross party support.

  9. ladytizzy says:

    I’ve got my refreshements sorted – has anyone done a Bingo card?

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