Why on earth do supporters of the Alternative Vote (AV) claim that the Conservative Party uses a form of AV to elect its leader? Paddy Ashdown was doing it earlier today. Some also claim that the French elect their president by a form of AV. Such claims betray a basic ignorance of electoral systems. The Conservatives do not use AV or a form of AV to elect the leader and the French do not use a form of AV to elect the president. AV uses an ordinal ballot structure. Where second or multiple ballots are employed, with a single preference employed in each, then one is employing a different electoral system.